100% . I'm going on a guided wading redfish trip in SC next week ( And yes I watched your low country redfish YouTube video). Spoke with the guide, he said we'll meet at the fly shop, in case you need something. I said great, I like to shop local. I will bring gear with me as needed to start but additional gear I always buy at the local fly shop,and generally buy more than I really need anyway. He said you're my kind of guy. I have to find out if he drinks beer. Tight lines
As a fly shop manager myself, I fully agree with all these points. Except, I would add to please not assume you can only get your information from “the guys” or “the boys.”
Shout out to front range anglers in boulder, CO. Super awesome staff, been going there for years. Now is a critical time for everyone to support their local fly shop if you are lucky to have your job still!
I stop in at fly shops whenever I’m in a new area or haven’t been in the area in a while. I’m friendly, polite and low key. Fly fishing for 50 years. If the shop is also friendly I might take part in a conversation. Then pick up some tippet or nippers or such. Maybe some tying materials. If the shop is not friendly, snooty, condescending etc, I’ll poke around then leave quietly. No problem. Maybe they had a bad day. I don’t look for tips or hot spots or hot flies. Not that I know it all, I like finding my own way. It takes time to find those spots and flies on my own. That’s what I’ve always have done. It’s a big part of what fly fishing is for me. I find it more fulfilling and gratifying. But that’s just me. It’s too bad that we even have to discuss etiquette in any situation, from either perspective. Also, Charlie Craven is a legend.
Agreed with this video on every level. Support your local fly shop, and buy local. Many times they’ll have the best materials and specific flies for the local waters you’re not going to get online, especially if there’s a local variation fly that works for specific hatches. Get in there and drop $20-30 for the advise you’ll get
Been in three fly shops in Colo, all were cool, one in particular fixed a reel for us no charge, so I bought a couple pairs of sunglasses and like 10 flies, third shop was run by a much older guy that I kinda felt sorry for at first, didnt seem like he did a lot of business and while it was a good experience he did push pretty hard to guide us, eventually insulting us slightly as being beginners (which we are) and offering to hook us up with a morning of brook trout fishing for $150 each, I mightve taken him up on it but we'd already spent 3 days catching browns by ourselves in the Ark and the Rio Grande with not too much trouble.
I want to buy my first rod, but how do I do that if all the shops are closed at the moment? I have a Ross Animas feel on the way, but that’s all I have.
Fully agree. Don’t be a spaz, listen to advice and keep your fly fishing secrets to yourself. You have nothing to prove to other customers in the shop. Just act normal. There’s a lot to soak in. Relax.
My local flyshop has a terrible selection, and 95% of the products are either low-end or no-end quality, the dude who runs it is so fucking chatty that I make an alarm with my ringtone when I go in there so I have an excuse to leave when he starts telling the same old story of a trout he caught in 1993. I mean, I know him well, and I often run into him on the river, but dude needs to shut up. Still, I do support him when I can, and he doesn't mind if I go into the backroom to look through old boxes of flytying materials he has taken off the shelf.
And if you bring beer into any shop in Norway, they'll call the cops and you end up in the drunk-tank even though you are completely sober and you explain that the beers were a gift to the workers. On the other hand, if you are a employee at a shop and a customer brings you a beer and you take it, you get fired and a rumor will start to spread that you get drunk while working, so you'll never get a job ever again, and before you know it, you'll be sleeping under a bridge, turning tricks for heroine. Norwegian government is fucked beyond repair!
Dude you were spot on with this here. I dropped a few dollars on some things and got to talking to the owner of the place and he gave me some locations to check out. He also gave me his contact info if I had any questions or wanted to fish! 💯🤘🎣😎
Solid advice…thank you. Once burned, twice cautious…was turned off by a fly shop where I once lived that treated me, the new guy, like the village idiot; then I learned from others that they treated everyone that way. I went there to to buy a new rod and ended going across the state to another shop for the purchase. Why are some shops run by absolute dickheads?
Never hang around a place and dont spend money. I dont stop unless im buying. Im in 1.5k this year, so when i stop in they dont mind me asking questions.
All good advice. Only thing I'd add is, you don't have to settle for the first shop you walk into. If there are multiple shops in a reasonable distance, try them out you may find that you like better, or get better info, or are just more comfortable in one rather than another. I live in the Pacific NW and there are 4 shops within 20 or so miles of me. One I won't go into, and I've found that the other 3 are great and I get better info from each during particular times of the years, so I spend time in each seasonally. Oh, and don't even think about moving here, it rains ALL the time.
Why do you feel the need to tell people how to behave? I have not experienced these idiots which seem to hover about you. I don't know where you live, but I hope you and these people will stay the hell away from my side of the mountain.
I have to disagree with you asking people to buy something else than a fishing license. That's your job as a business owner to have good enough marketing to make people want to spend more money there. If I get remotely hassled to buy something, chances are I won't go back there.
All I can say is WOW!! This guy is SPOT ON! As a shop owner, that sells Fly tying/Fly Fishing stuff– I get this ALL DAY, EVERY DAY. Support your LOCAL SHOP! Great vid!!
I used to work in a Fly Shop. All rules of etiquette noted apply. Especially wrecking the bathroom and shopping our gear to buy online. Don't pro deal us either that's shabby. Pro deals are for pro's and not bro's.
Don't wear your wet nasty muddy waders and boots in the shop!!!! PERIOD!!! Stop at the door and shed your sweaty neoprene hot box. I know you have flips in the back of your 4-Runner.
Really, to be honest. You don't have to give us anything like beer or whiskey etc… Any shop with a good reputation will give you free information. The more success you have the more successful the shop will be. Just come in ask questions or start a conversation. I go into every shop I walk by when I travel and I have only been in 1 shop that had a crappy service-it was in a major fly fishing destination too. Point is that the shop staff is usually ready to help.
At our shop our policy was "you can fish where we fish." Usually I'd give 2-3 places to go-were I would actually go-and say "you pick." Only call us after you have a good day. Don't call and complain you didn't catch fish-everybody has that day.
The biggest thing…Don't come in just to argue and measure your fish IQ. You may know more than me but you don't know more than the shop. We have Shop pro's, guides and experienced staff to put our knowledge together to better serve the community. It's not competition to see who knows more or who owns more or who's fished more goofy holes in the middle of nowhere. Its just fly fishing…Have fun…
Took your advice and went to my local fly shop for the first time with a pack of beers. What a great way to make some new friends! Thanks for making awesome videos
100% . I'm going on a guided wading redfish trip in SC next week ( And yes I watched your low country redfish YouTube video). Spoke with the guide, he said we'll meet at the fly shop, in case you need something. I said great, I like to shop local. I will bring gear with me as needed to start but additional gear I always buy at the local fly shop,and generally buy more than I really need anyway. He said you're my kind of guy. I have to find out if he drinks beer. Tight lines
As a fly shop manager myself, I fully agree with all these points. Except, I would add to please not assume you can only get your information from “the guys” or “the boys.”
Shout out to front range anglers in boulder, CO. Super awesome staff, been going there for years. Now is a critical time for everyone to support their local fly shop if you are lucky to have your job still!
I stop in at fly shops whenever I’m in a new area or haven’t been in the area in a while. I’m friendly, polite and low key. Fly fishing for 50 years. If the shop is also friendly I might take part in a conversation. Then pick up some tippet or nippers or such. Maybe some tying materials. If the shop is not friendly, snooty, condescending etc, I’ll poke around then leave quietly. No problem. Maybe they had a bad day. I don’t look for tips or hot spots or hot flies. Not that I know it all, I like finding my own way. It takes time to find those spots and flies on my own. That’s what I’ve always have done. It’s a big part of what fly fishing is for me. I find it more fulfilling and gratifying. But that’s just me. It’s too bad that we even have to discuss etiquette in any situation, from either perspective. Also, Charlie Craven is a legend.
Agreed with this video on every level. Support your local fly shop, and buy local. Many times they’ll have the best materials and specific flies for the local waters you’re not going to get online, especially if there’s a local variation fly that works for specific hatches. Get in there and drop $20-30 for the advise you’ll get
Omg the entitlement in this video Jesus Christ
What about a north 40 fly shop
Been in three fly shops in Colo, all were cool, one in particular fixed a reel for us no charge, so I bought a couple pairs of sunglasses and like 10 flies, third shop was run by a much older guy that I kinda felt sorry for at first, didnt seem like he did a lot of business and while it was a good experience he did push pretty hard to guide us, eventually insulting us slightly as being beginners (which we are) and offering to hook us up with a morning of brook trout fishing for $150 each, I mightve taken him up on it but we'd already spent 3 days catching browns by ourselves in the Ark and the Rio Grande with not too much trouble.
Just ordered a new fly rod from my local fly shop during the pandemic. Support you local shop buy ordering gear, flys, clothing or gift cards!!
I want to buy my first rod, but how do I do that if all the shops are closed at the moment? I have a Ross Animas feel on the way, but that’s all I have.
Fully agree. Don’t be a spaz, listen to advice and keep your fly fishing secrets to yourself. You have nothing to prove to other customers in the shop. Just act normal. There’s a lot to soak in. Relax.
My local flyshop has a terrible selection, and 95% of the products are either low-end or no-end quality, the dude who runs it is so fucking chatty that I make an alarm with my ringtone when I go in there so I have an excuse to leave when he starts telling the same old story of a trout he caught in 1993. I mean, I know him well, and I often run into him on the river, but dude needs to shut up. Still, I do support him when I can, and he doesn't mind if I go into the backroom to look through old boxes of flytying materials he has taken off the shelf.
And if you bring beer into any shop in Norway, they'll call the cops and you end up in the drunk-tank even though you are completely sober and you explain that the beers were a gift to the workers. On the other hand, if you are a employee at a shop and a customer brings you a beer and you take it, you get fired and a rumor will start to spread that you get drunk while working, so you'll never get a job ever again, and before you know it, you'll be sleeping under a bridge, turning tricks for heroine. Norwegian government is fucked beyond repair!
Dude you were spot on with this here. I dropped a few dollars on some things and got to talking to the owner of the place and he gave me some locations to check out. He also gave me his contact info if I had any questions or wanted to fish! 💯🤘🎣😎
Solid advice…thank you. Once burned, twice cautious…was turned off by a fly shop where I once lived that treated me, the new guy, like the village idiot; then I learned from others that they treated everyone that way. I went there to to buy a new rod and ended going across the state to another shop for the purchase. Why are some shops run by absolute dickheads?
It’s tuff living in Saskatchewan, cuz around where I live there are no local fly shops. Gotta order basically everything for fly fishing 🙁
Never hang around a place and dont spend money. I dont stop unless im buying. Im in 1.5k this year, so when i stop in they dont mind me asking questions.
was this guy Malarky on Band of Brothers?
I have broke to many of these rules but still have the opportunity to fish with the boys. I’ve carved my own path
Maybe you can make a trout STREAM etiquette video, to keep millennials from cutting in 25' upstream from you. Hey, you don't own the river, right?
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First etiquette is to speak, spell and write English and not use USA attempted English.
All good advice. Only thing I'd add is, you don't have to settle for the first shop you walk into. If there are multiple shops in a reasonable distance, try them out you may find that you like better, or get better info, or are just more comfortable in one rather than another. I live in the Pacific NW and there are 4 shops within 20 or so miles of me. One I won't go into, and I've found that the other 3 are great and I get better info from each during particular times of the years, so I spend time in each seasonally. Oh, and don't even think about moving here, it rains ALL the time.
Where are the rubber worms?
Charlies Fly Shop Youtube channel is gone.
Why do you feel the need to tell people how to behave? I have not experienced these idiots which seem
to hover about you. I don't know where you live, but I hope you and these people will stay the hell away from my side of the mountain.
Should bring some of this etiquette out to salmon river ny area, just saying
When are we gonna get an etiquette video on proper buddy heckling?! Otherwise another great video. Keep up the good work. Cheers.
Poles???
Total creep is an understatement for bow "fisherman"
isnt drinking alcohol while working illegal?
I have to disagree with you asking people to buy something else than a fishing license. That's your job as a business owner to have good enough marketing to make people want to spend more money there. If I get remotely hassled to buy something, chances are I won't go back there.
All I can say is WOW!! This guy is SPOT ON! As a shop owner, that sells Fly tying/Fly Fishing stuff– I get this ALL DAY, EVERY DAY. Support your LOCAL SHOP! Great vid!!
I used to work in a Fly Shop. All rules of etiquette noted apply. Especially wrecking the bathroom and shopping our gear to buy online. Don't pro deal us either that's shabby. Pro deals are for pro's and not bro's.
Don't wear your wet nasty muddy waders and boots in the shop!!!! PERIOD!!! Stop at the door and shed your sweaty neoprene hot box. I know you have flips in the back of your 4-Runner.
Really, to be honest. You don't have to give us anything like beer or whiskey etc… Any shop with a good reputation will give you free information. The more success you have the more successful the shop will be. Just come in ask questions or start a conversation. I go into every shop I walk by when I travel and I have only been in 1 shop that had a crappy service-it was in a major fly fishing destination too. Point is that the shop staff is usually ready to help.
At our shop our policy was "you can fish where we fish." Usually I'd give 2-3 places to go-were I would actually go-and say "you pick." Only call us after you have a good day. Don't call and complain you didn't catch fish-everybody has that day.
The biggest thing…Don't come in just to argue and measure your fish IQ. You may know more than me but you don't know more than the shop. We have Shop pro's, guides and experienced staff to put our knowledge together to better serve the community. It's not competition to see who knows more or who owns more or who's fished more goofy holes in the middle of nowhere. Its just fly fishing…Have fun…
My local shop has turned me off from fly fishing. The guys are very aloof.
Took your advice and went to my local fly shop for the first time with a pack of beers. What a great way to make some new friends! Thanks for making awesome videos